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In a powerful and timely conversation, Ben Shapiro sits down with renowned historian and political analyst Victor Davis Hanson to explore how President Donald Trump is spearheading what they describe as a “historic counter-revolution” — one that is redefining American politics, governance, and foreign policy.
A Second-Term Shift with Global Implications
According to Hanson, Trump’s second term marks a pivotal moment in modern U.S. history. He argues that Trump is not merely continuing his first-term agenda but is doubling down on core issues such as national sovereignty, border security, economic nationalism, and a rejection of globalist frameworks.
“This isn’t just a return to Trumpism — this is something even deeper. It’s a rejection of the post-Cold War consensus,” Hanson explains.
Restoring the Republic
The conversation outlines how Trump’s administration is focused on “restoring the constitutional republic”, pushing back against what Hanson calls the “unaccountable administrative state.” From battling entrenched bureaucracies to challenging media narratives and reversing progressive legal precedents, Trump is, in their view, leading a movement to reclaim power for the people.
Shapiro and Hanson agree that Trump’s approach is reshaping the political landscape in ways that could outlast his presidency — inspiring a wave of populist momentum across Western democracies.
Global Ripple Effects
Beyond domestic policy, the discussion dives into Trump’s foreign policy posture, especially in relation to China, Russia, and the Middle East. Hanson describes Trump’s doctrine as “realist and restrained”, built on the principle of “peace through strength.”
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